Friday, July 09, 2010

Ergun Caner and Rick Warren: both are frauds

I find this response from Phil Johnson on the Ergun Caner fraud (he is correct on this) interesting.
Johnson said,"Of course, by this approach Caner, Liberty, and the little cadre of Arminian bloggers who are determined no-matter-what to defend Caner have already lost all credibility with those who love truth."

This statement could also be said of John Piper and his defiant defense of Rick Warren (who, by the way, yet AGAIN promotes women pastors, thus proving as I have shown previously that he LIED to Piper) and their defenders. Perhaps Piper is the one with "pious gullibility". But there's nothing pious about it--rather its willing ignorance and defiance) :

Of course, by this approach Piper, Warren, and the little cadre of Calvinist bloggers who are determined no-matter-what to defend Piper have already lost all credibility with those who love truth.

This is a true statement. Its true for both cases of Piper and Caner.

Is doctrinal fraud is easier to ignore in one's own camp than a biographical one in someone else's? Is that how God sees it?

It seems to me that God is concerned a whole lot about a fraudulent gospel and teachers. This is something Jesus Himself repeatedly taught and warned about both before and after the Cross (see Matt. 7 and Revelation 1-3; also 1John 1-2; 2John; Jude; 2Peter 2).

Clearly Piper has lost all credibility with those who love Truth because of his continued defiant defense of Warren (and Mark Driscoll) as well as his ecumenical involvment with Lausanne Congress. Therefore losing respect for Geisler as well as Piper is biblically and practically consistant.

1 comment:

Evy said...

Hi Surph,
I agree with your article,but it is sad when a leader, you have respected seems blind to a snake oil salesman. http://triablogue.blogspot.com/ has an excellent comment, too.
I enjoy your blog.
Evy